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Fathers Deserve A Choice Too
By Valerie Jane | July 31, 2007
From The Record-Courier:
Several Ohio state representatives who normally take an anti-abortion stance are now pushing pro-choice legislation - sort of.
Led by Rep. John Adams, a group of state legislators have submitted a bill that would give fathers of unborn children a final say in whether or not an abortion can take place.
It’s a measure that, supporters say, would finally give fathers a choice.
As written, the bill would ban women from seeking an abortion without written consent from the father of the fetus. In cases where the identity of the father is unknown, women would be required to submit a list of possible fathers. The physician would be forced to conduct a paternity test from the provided list and then seek paternal permission to abort.
I’m really pleased that this has been proposed for one reason - it draws attention to the fact that many men are concerned and care for their unborn children,” said Denise Mackura, the director of the Ohio Right to Life Society.
In addition, women would be required to present a police report in order to prove a pregnancy is the result of rape or incest.
said NARAL Pro-choice Ohio executive director Kellie Copeland. “It is completely out of touch with Ohio’s mainstream values. This measure is a clear attack on a woman’s freedom and privacy.”
Portage has been among the leading Ohio counties in abortion-to-birth ratios since abortion was legalized in 1973. Since 1996, about 20 percent of Portage County pregnancies have been aborted
Cuyahoga County has the highest abortion percentage with more than 30 percent of its residents’ pregnancies being terminated. Summit County is also near the top of the list with a 21 percent termination rate.
“Simply taking a look at this as a possibility is a step in the right direction,” Mackura said. “Pregnancy is a unique human condition and obviously a woman is affected differently than a man. As a woman, I can sympathize. However, to completely take rights away from the father is unfair.
“Currently, even in a marriage situation, a man has no right to even be informed of an abortion. But if a woman doesn’t have an abortion, men sure have a lot of responsibility then. It’s really not fair.”
This is yet another example of the me, me, it’s all about me hypocritical generation. Women get all the choices and men are left in the dark. I loved this statement “clear attack on a woman’s freedom and privacy“. 93% of abortions are given to healthy women who have not been 
raped. They sure as hell weren’t concerned about their privacy when they got knocked up. And since they don’t care about the freedom for men why should anyone care about their freedom? It takes two to tango and it takes two to make a baby.
Wives can get an abortion without the husbands knowing it. No wonder divorce has infected marriages. Pro-Choice has told women that it is okay and their right to deceive and manipulate their spouse.
I think it is time that Pro-Choice admit that they have been unfair and discriminatory towards men. Let’s make it fair. If a mother wants an abortion and the father wants to have the baby, then the mother can sign all parental rights to the father and after the baby is born can walk away without any demands on her time or her bank accounts. If the father wants an abortion and the mother doesn’t then the father can sign all parental rights to the mother and walk away without any demands on his time or his bank accounts.
Pro-Choice keeps saying they want abortions to be rare. I think giving the father the rights to their own flesh and blood would cut the abortion numbers in half. The woman shared her body with the man and created a baby with him. If it wasn’t for him, she wouldn’t be pregnant. Fathers have a right to keep their child, or say no to child support and visitation. It’s time men get a choice.
(If your Fatherhood was taken from you here is a website and a book that can help you.)
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August 2nd, 2007 at 10:06 pm
I want to comment on this but I’m torn and not sure what to say…too little sleep lately as well…little one is teething…maybe I’ll figure out what it is that bothers me after a full nights sleep
August 3rd, 2007 at 11:58 am
I think the part that makes me stop and think is where you say that the man and the woman can both sign away their responsibility and not have to pay for any upkeep or support of the child. We already see this happening. Men father the children then either disavow any part of the child or even after the child is proven as theirs they refuse to pay to support the child. Women end up having abortions b/c they don’t think they can afford to take care of the child when the father says that they are out of there. I don’t think that making it even easier for either parent to cut off all responsibility for the child will help. This is just another way to make it easier for them to shirk their responsibilities. “I can have as much sex as I want and father as many children as I want and all I have to do is sign a piece of paper saying I want nothing to do with said children and walla! my problem is solved and I have no children!” Until people start taking responsibility for their actions and accepting the outcome of those actions we will not see change. I know, for myself, one of the reasons I waited till I was married to have sex was the thought of the consequences. I knew having sex created children and that I wasn’t ready for children so I waited till I knew I was in a position/relationship in which having children would be a welcome and happy occurrence…after I got married. Sure, I could have used birth control but that hadn’t worked for any of my siblings who didn’t wait and ended up having children out of wedlock or shortly before or after the wedding ceremony. I wasn’t willing to take that chance…
August 3rd, 2007 at 2:16 pm
Here’s my question. Why do women get all the choices? Abortion is up to HER. Adoption is up to HER. Keeping the baby is up to HER. There are two parents here. If the unwed couple (and sometimes wed couple) cannot decide on what to do with the unwanted pregnancy it is the women who gets to choose and the man gets to pay by pocketbook or by heartbreak. Even if he would have had an abortion if he was the woman, he still has to pay for the child he would have legally murdered. If he wants the baby, he wants to take responsibility for his actions, but the mother doesn’t want to he has no legal action to take to stop the murder of his child. As it stands right now, if the woman wants to give the baby up for adoption but the father stops the process because he wants the baby, then he takes legal custody and the mother walks away without being forced to pay child support or visitation because she did’t want the baby. But if the role was reversed, and the man wanted to put the child up for adoption it doesn’t matter, he still has to pay. This is not fair. You worry about the irresponsible nature of the men without any thought to the irresponisble behavior that is already being done legally by the women. I do understand your worries, believe me I understand! But I think women have been selfish for long enough.
Do you really think women will be so callous about promiscuity and birth control when they do not have all the control? If men will not legally be a dead beat Dad and women cannot get an ounce of money or support? If she wants an abortion, he doesn’t have to pay for that either because he can just walk away. Basically, the man gets to do what the women have been doing for 30 years now.
I have to admit that I am getting tired of seeing the men being blamed for all of this. The women are playing the game too. Like I said before, it takes two to tango and it takes two to make a baby. Why is it only one that get to make all the decisions?
August 3rd, 2007 at 11:34 pm
Thank you for clarifying that for me. I do agree with you that men seem to get all the blame and yet when they want to take responsibility they are either left in the cold or left holding the child with no help whatsoever. I think the only thing that will change this though is to go back to when sex was reserved for marriage. It is only in a situation where there is true love and respect between spouses that abortion is never an option. There are no power plays and everyone’s wants and needs should be satisfied. I don’t think that is ever going to happen though till women realize all they have lost by buying into the “free sex” ideology. Unfortunately, nothing in life is free. There is always going to be a cost associated with whatever you do and until people realize the cost associated with sex is someone else’s life than nothing will change…
August 4th, 2007 at 3:29 pm
What I don’t understand is what I call the “illness mentality”. When it come to any behavior illness every liberal screams that the behavior needs to stop. Smoking is an example. Smoking causes many illnesses, including cancer which can be deadly. So they are banning smoking in public places and have campaigns to stop tobacco companies from making cigaretts and comercials showing how bad it is. Over eating is another example. They want fast foods restaurants to use only “safe” oils because “unsafe” oils can lead to clog arteries which can cause heart attacks and these oils cause obesity which is also unhealthy. Remember the movie “super size me” which showed how horrible fast foods restaraunts are? (like anyone is going to eat fast food 24/7 and be surprised that they are unhealthy!) Basically, they don’t want you to have a ‘choice’ in how you ‘choose’ to live your life.
However, you can’t tell people to stop having promiscuous sex. This behavior causes Chlamydia, CMV, genital warts, gonorrhea, hepatitis, herpes, HPV, PID, scabes, syphilis, UTI’s, not to mention HIV and AIDS. Many of these can cause serious health problems including death. And how many did I miss? Not to mention that the CDC reports people ages 15-24 have the highest number of new sexually transmitted infections every year. 9.1 million new STI’s. Where are the campaigns to stop this behavior? Why aren’t they trying to stop the condom company’s because they said condom’s were safe?
Promiscuous sex is worse than smoking or over eating. If you stop the behavior of smoking and over eating you can stop/reverse damage done by this behavior. but with sex, you cannot stop nor reverse half of the diseases/infections you can get.
It’s amazing that with all this knowledge we can’t seem to go back to the safer lifestyle of waiting for marriage. However, until that happens, I do think the men need to get a break and a CHOICE in their reproduction.
I think it may wake women up. OH - while I’m on a rant - you said “till women realize all they have lost by buying into the “free sex” ideology.” ….. don’t you just love the feminists saying that they are just as smart as men and can do any job men do all the while saying that the men need to respect them for their brians and not their bodies but the first chance they get they are on the cover of Playboy. One of “the apprentice” women did that a few months ago. I bet she is sitting there wondering why no man takes her seriously anymore…..
August 4th, 2007 at 10:01 pm
Exactly! The feminists since the 60’s have really done women a disservice. They thought that they were freeing us from the oppression of men but instead they have made our oppression even worse. Men can have all the free sex they want w/o needing to make a commitment b/c isn’t that what we all want? Don’t we all just love it? People need to see sex as a priviledge and not a right! They need to remember that we aren’t animals and we do have control over our wants and desires. As you said above, they keep telling us what’s bad and what’s good for us and make sweeping changes in all other behavioral things that they don’t think we can handle taking care of for ourselves…I think it all links back to the thought that we can’t control our sexuality and shouldn’t need to so once we “gave up” having to control those urges why should we worry about controlling our urge to overeat or smoke or drink…So many things can be tied back to the lowering of our moral standards…
And the liberals scream about things until it affects them…once it affects them they start singing a different tune…During the latest immigration kerfluffle, the liberals in DC had a huge change of heart when they realized that minority families were buying houses in their subdivisions for their whole families to live in…they didn’t like that very much and start screaming about having too many people in one house and too many cars for one house, etc. etc etc. but it’s okay for the rest of the country to have to deal with these same problems…just not them!