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Patricia said in November 19th, 2008 at 3:35 pm

to be quite honest, I don’t think too many parents really give a damn.(sorry, sorry, sorry)
And since many adults lives are just as messed up why would they expect anything different from or for their children?

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Valerie Jane said in November 19th, 2008 at 5:01 pm

Patricia -

Parents are just worn out from having to fight popular culture and the school systems. Any parent who fights the system is considered a bad parent, and any parent who lets the systme raise their children is a bad parent. Not to mention that if any parents disagrees with what specific people think should be taught to our kids they are bad parents.

It’s not that parents don’t care - parents are just tired of fighting and then being told how bad they are at parenting for questioning “the system”.

It aint easy being a parent who wants to teach morality when the entire world seems to be against you.

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Patricia said in November 19th, 2008 at 5:21 pm

Valerie Jane, I’m sorry but I do respectfully disagree. Many parents just don’t even try. I’ve met parents and kids from my daughter’s school when we are out shopping. I try to tell the mom to hold the line. They give in each and every time over immodest clothing. The kid wins if they are persistent enough.

Another area is dating. Parents are simply unbelievable on this one. Kids in Gr 5, 6, 7 and 8 should NOT be dating. But, parents seem to think it’s cute and harmless.
I honestly think that many parents just want to be their child’s friend. I’m working on being a mean mom! :-D

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mk said in November 19th, 2008 at 5:35 pm

Actually,
I think you’re both right. There are parents out there, like us, that feeling like we’re drowning! My daughter is large, and has had to buy bigger sizes since she was small. You wouldn’t believe the “fancy” dresses that are out there in size 8! Remember the post Jill did on halloween costumes? They were worse this year!

On the other hand, a lot, and I agree Patricia, it’s A LOT, of parents simply don’t care. But think about it. They are the first generation that grew up being dressed by their parents this way. I mean the bikini has been around for 40 some years. That means that 40 year old moms grew up with this mentality and have passed it on to their kids.

lol Patricia, you may be trying to be a mean mom, but my daughter will tell you that I’ve succeeded!

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Valerie Jane said in November 19th, 2008 at 6:10 pm

I do know some Mom’s that are trying to be their kids friends, but lets be honest - That is what they are being told to do. When my parents were raising me it was Dr. Spock telling everyone how to raise their children. Now we have multiple “Dr. Spocks” telling us how to raise them. And they are saying to be friends with your children, don’t hurt their self esteem and treat them like adults. These poor parents have lost control of their children so early on, there is no way to get control once puberty hits.

The clothing is getting bad. They have slutty clothes in 2T sizes. It’s disgusting. Yet once again we are told that children need to express themselves so let them be. ug…..

The spoiling of children in masses doesn’t come from lazy parenting. It comes from masses of parents being told to raise their kids this way. It’s like a disease and it is the mean parents that are the vaccine!

And a big WooHoo! to Patricia for being a mean Mom! Congrats! It isn’t easy going against what society tells you to do.

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Patricia said in November 19th, 2008 at 6:26 pm

MK; see my mother would NEVER let me wear a bikini. Remember my mom was an ITALIAN mom and she was very strict. She didn’t exactly TELL me I couldn’t wear it but she implied that she would be very very disappointed if I did. It was the same with make-up and halter-tops etc.
And I understand too how hard it can be for some young women to find clothing. My oldest girl is a little on the heavier side. It is very hard to find clothing that doesn’t fit like skin on an onion.
I’m currently reading A return to modesty” by Wendy Shalit. It is excellent. Little does she know that she has figured out some of the Theology of the Body, all by her little self! ;-D

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mk said in November 19th, 2008 at 8:32 pm

I couldn’t wear a two piece either, if my navel was showing. My daughter can’t wear one either. And no make up til I was 15. I still don’t wear much.

I played with dolls til I was 14! Why can’t kids be kids???

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