Comments on: Obama’s apologetic speech in Cairo http://www.2secondsfaster.com/2009/06/obamas-apologetic-speech-in-cairo/ Are we there yet? Mon, 15 Mar 2010 01:49:40 -0500 hourly 1 By: Stu http://www.2secondsfaster.com/2009/06/obamas-apologetic-speech-in-cairo/#comment-9265 Stu Sat, 06 Jun 2009 13:52:42 +0000 http://www.2secondsfaster.com/2009/06/obamas-apologetic-speech-in-cairo/#comment-9265 <blockquote cite="comment-9262"> <strong><a href="#comment-9262" rel="nofollow">MK</a></strong>: Amen Stu…and thank you. </blockquote> MK, The crusades are an interesting time period. The period around the Spanish Inquisition is another that is totally skewed because we live in a protestant nation... Oh wait, Obama said it was a muslim nation... btw - Have you noticed that over the last 30 years the change in view of Columbus? Notice they point out he was Catholic (and Italian) now and not 30 years ago?

MK: Amen Stu…and thank you.

MK,

The crusades are an interesting time period. The period around the Spanish Inquisition is another that is totally skewed because we live in a protestant nation… Oh wait, Obama said it was a muslim nation…

btw – Have you noticed that over the last 30 years the change in view of Columbus? Notice they point out he was Catholic (and Italian) now and not 30 years ago?

]]> By: MK http://www.2secondsfaster.com/2009/06/obamas-apologetic-speech-in-cairo/#comment-9262 MK Sat, 06 Jun 2009 11:08:15 +0000 http://www.2secondsfaster.com/2009/06/obamas-apologetic-speech-in-cairo/#comment-9262 Amen Stu...and thank you. Amen Stu…and thank you.

]]> By: Stu http://www.2secondsfaster.com/2009/06/obamas-apologetic-speech-in-cairo/#comment-9198 Stu Fri, 05 Jun 2009 16:06:53 +0000 http://www.2secondsfaster.com/2009/06/obamas-apologetic-speech-in-cairo/#comment-9198 The Crusades were a response to the Muslim invasion (Muslim kingdoms) of Christian nations. Modern Day Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Jordan, ect.. were all Christian or multi-religions nations at one point. Islam swarmed out of the Saudi Arabian peninsula and when it had reached the Byzantine borders is when Constantinople asked for the Pope to send an army. There was 300-400 years of Islam spreading by the sword before the crusades. Those were crusades by Islam.... They took over areas and did not allow for Christians to pass on their religion to future generations. This still happens in Turkey and other Islamic countries. According to Mohamed you are born Muslim and it is justifiable to kill you to reconvert you to stop you from not believing. Yes some of the Roman knowledge survived in the Ottoman Empire. That was mostly because the Byzantine Empire was the Western Roman Empire. They called themselves Romans. When Islam overtook Byzantium and Constantinople they acquired (by force) all the knowledge that had existed in the Byzantine Empire. The Dark ages were caused by the Little Ice Age (colder climate), the fall of the Eastern Roman Empire, and the resulting collapse of authority. As an interesting note, Mary is mentioned more in the Koran than the Bible. Mohamed was an ecliptic and a pedophile (in modern terms). In my mid-twenties I had an interest in Islam. So Dan, learn some history from non-liberals. It takes little effort to learn on your own. The Crusades were a response to the Muslim invasion (Muslim kingdoms) of Christian nations. Modern Day Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Jordan, ect.. were all Christian or multi-religions nations at one point. Islam swarmed out of the Saudi Arabian peninsula and when it had reached the Byzantine borders is when Constantinople asked for the Pope to send an army.

There was 300-400 years of Islam spreading by the sword before the crusades. Those were crusades by Islam…. They took over areas and did not allow for Christians to pass on their religion to future generations. This still happens in Turkey and other Islamic countries. According to Mohamed you are born Muslim and it is justifiable to kill you to reconvert you to stop you from not believing.

Yes some of the Roman knowledge survived in the Ottoman Empire. That was mostly because the Byzantine Empire was the Western Roman Empire. They called themselves Romans. When Islam overtook Byzantium and Constantinople they acquired (by force) all the knowledge that had existed in the Byzantine Empire.

The Dark ages were caused by the Little Ice Age (colder climate), the fall of the Eastern Roman Empire, and the resulting collapse of authority.

As an interesting note, Mary is mentioned more in the Koran than the Bible. Mohamed was an ecliptic and a pedophile (in modern terms). In my mid-twenties I had an interest in Islam.

So Dan, learn some history from non-liberals. It takes little effort to learn on your own.

]]> By: MK http://www.2secondsfaster.com/2009/06/obamas-apologetic-speech-in-cairo/#comment-9187 MK Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:57:40 +0000 http://www.2secondsfaster.com/2009/06/obamas-apologetic-speech-in-cairo/#comment-9187 Here, this one is pricesless... <i>The Crusades were a series of wars initiated by Christians to win back their holy lands from Muslims.</i> Win Back? Doesn't that mean that they were TAKEN in the first place? A guy steals your bike. You steal it back. You go down in history as the guy that stole the bike...yeah, that's how it happened. http://www.mrdowling.com/606islam.html Here, this one is pricesless…

The Crusades were a series of wars initiated by Christians to win back their holy lands from Muslims.

Win Back? Doesn’t that mean that they were TAKEN in the first place?

A guy steals your bike. You steal it back. You go down in history as the guy that stole the bike…yeah, that’s how it happened.

http://www.mrdowling.com/606islam.html

]]> By: MK http://www.2secondsfaster.com/2009/06/obamas-apologetic-speech-in-cairo/#comment-9186 MK Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:37:21 +0000 http://www.2secondsfaster.com/2009/06/obamas-apologetic-speech-in-cairo/#comment-9186 Here is a Catholic view... http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04543c.htm Here is a Catholic view…

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04543c.htm

]]> By: MK http://www.2secondsfaster.com/2009/06/obamas-apologetic-speech-in-cairo/#comment-9184 MK Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:34:53 +0000 http://www.2secondsfaster.com/2009/06/obamas-apologetic-speech-in-cairo/#comment-9184 The Crusades were a series of military campaigns during the time of Medieval England against the Muslims of the Middle East. <strong>In 1076, the Muslims had captured Jerusalem - the most holy of holy places for Christians. </strong>Jesus had been born in nearby Bethlehem and Jesus had spent most of his life in Jerusalem. He was crucified on Calvary Hill, also in Jerusalem. There was no more important place on Earth than Jerusalem for a true Christian which is why Christians called Jerusalem the "City of God". http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/cru1.htm granted thats a simplified description, but it was from an unbiased source.... The Crusades were a series of military campaigns during the time of Medieval England against the Muslims of the Middle East. In 1076, the Muslims had captured Jerusalem – the most holy of holy places for Christians. Jesus had been born in nearby Bethlehem and Jesus had spent most of his life in Jerusalem. He was crucified on Calvary Hill, also in Jerusalem. There was no more important place on Earth than Jerusalem for a true Christian which is why Christians called Jerusalem the “City of God”.

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/cru1.htm

granted thats a simplified description, but it was from an unbiased source….

]]> By: Alexandra http://www.2secondsfaster.com/2009/06/obamas-apologetic-speech-in-cairo/#comment-9182 Alexandra Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:36:46 +0000 http://www.2secondsfaster.com/2009/06/obamas-apologetic-speech-in-cairo/#comment-9182 "While our fellow Catholics gave their lives to prevent a muslim takeover of the world during the crusades, we’re just handing it to them on a silver platter." I would like an explanation of that statement, myself. “While our fellow Catholics gave their lives to prevent a muslim takeover of the world during the crusades, we’re just handing it to them on a silver platter.”

I would like an explanation of that statement, myself.

]]> By: MK http://www.2secondsfaster.com/2009/06/obamas-apologetic-speech-in-cairo/#comment-9179 MK Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:12:20 +0000 http://www.2secondsfaster.com/2009/06/obamas-apologetic-speech-in-cairo/#comment-9179 Dan, <blockquote cite="comment-9077"> <strong><a href="#comment-9077" rel="nofollow">Dan</a></strong>: And yet it was the the Muslims that brought us out of the Dark Ages brought upon in part by the Catholic Church. Go figure. </blockquote> Come again????? Dan,

Dan: And yet it was the the Muslims that brought us out of the Dark Ages brought upon in part by the Catholic Church. Go figure.

Come again?????

]]> By: MK http://www.2secondsfaster.com/2009/06/obamas-apologetic-speech-in-cairo/#comment-9178 MK Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:10:56 +0000 http://www.2secondsfaster.com/2009/06/obamas-apologetic-speech-in-cairo/#comment-9178 <blockquote cite="comment-9089"> <strong><a href="#comment-9089" rel="nofollow">Elizabeth</a></strong>: The people get the government they deserve. Quote </blockquote> Very, very scary thought.

Elizabeth: The people get the government they deserve.

Quote

Very, very scary thought.

]]> By: Paul http://www.2secondsfaster.com/2009/06/obamas-apologetic-speech-in-cairo/#comment-9174 Paul Fri, 05 Jun 2009 06:37:11 +0000 http://www.2secondsfaster.com/2009/06/obamas-apologetic-speech-in-cairo/#comment-9174 "And how can this be? For Obama is the Kwisatz Haderach!" Actually what he wants to convince the Muslim world is that he is "Al Mahdi". And many are being convinced of just that. “And how can this be? For Obama is the Kwisatz Haderach!”

Actually what he wants to convince the Muslim world is that he is “Al Mahdi”.

And many are being convinced of just that.

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